Can you see the similarities between Muslim women in a burqa and nuns in their head to toe habits ?

Question

Both outfits are a head to toe outfit that strips a woman of her personal and ****** identity in a controlling manner. Are they both prisoners of a male dominated oppressive culture ??

Answer 1

moderated...

Answer 2

Oh please! Did you know that plants SCREAM when they're cut???

Answer 3

Because it's more than just somebody else's personal medical decision. There's that other somebody else inside of her who's life is at stake. That person all the pro-choicers treat as nonexistent. Say you came upon a man beating his wife and it looked like her life was threatened. Would you just brush it off as somebody else's personal issue for fear of being publicly shamed as a maligned control freak?

Answer 4

Hmm... I'm not seeing it. Sounds like "pro lifers" are just a step away from deciding who a woman can mate with, when it can happen and how the ***** will be raised. Much like a religion might do for one of its flock.

Answer 5

If you're seeing it that way I'd say you need to get your vision a bit more in focus. The only step I need to take is every individual's right to live. And that precedes every other right we're entitled to. I'm not even bringing religion into this discussion since biological science already establishes that an individual human being is present at conception. But I hope I'm not being presumptive in ******** you have as much a reverence for human life as anybody else with established moral beliefs. And that you also embrace our shared ethic that we don't condone murdering somebody for personal benefit or convenience which the pro-choice lobby dishonestly labels "personal rights". We don't extend personal rights to murder in any other context. Why is human life in the womb the exception? Why do we vindicate this murder as a civil right and hide the victim?

Answer 6

I don't buy it. Aborting a fetus is up to the woman who's carrying it. It's nothing like murdering a ***** or an *****.

You draw the line at conception... I draw it at birth.

Answer 7

Yet there's no solid consensus on why human life at conception has no value. It's a troubling question people choose to avoid. But then there's that Supreme Court ruling that said the death of a fetus in a shooting was homicide.

Answer 8

Contradictions exist, I'm sure. I'm just not that interested in the details. As long as a woman gets to make her own choices, we're more like Americans than Iranians.

Answer 9

Unfortunately it often is really a choice between a S L O W death, from starvation, for example...or a quick one..abortion.

Answer 10

Do you keep kosher?

Answer 11

Some call a developing embryo "a clump of cells" which is something that can't possibly exist in nature. Cells are always part of something. And the stage at which they think they can choose to call an embryo human depends on who you ask. But it's all to avoid the scientifically established fact that the joining of two people's DNA at conception forms a new life. Then there are those who treat the unborn person as a thing when he's halfway out of the womb. And even beyond that in the case of our still current president. To sum it up, in the pro-choice crowd everybody has their own rules. It's just like Mad Max. Or the Florida 2000 recount.

Answer 12

What does that mean?

Answer 13

Yeah, it's like the clothing requirements in Judaism, Mormonism, and the Amish.... how horrible!

Answer 14

It is. Life is too short to be told what to do by some long-dead superstitious control freak.

Answer 15

The same, really?

Answer 16

I'm not keen on muslims, either. What's your point?

Answer 17

You asked for similarities and post an illustration all but lumping the two together. I chose to pint out the very stark differences. One is a volunteer signed on to a life of celibacy and choosing to wear such garments, the other has no choice.

Answer 18

I don't know where I asked, exactly, but... yes, my prejudices against Islam remain intact. All the body-shame, dietary proscriptions, rigamarole, etc. are still pretty outlandish.

Answer 19

Christians don't do this to women.

Answer 20

There's no reason to justify anything in the first place. Who cares how these people feel about somebody else's personal medical decisions? :O)

For some reason, this is viewed as a debatable matter. Control freaks' last gasp, I suppose.

Answer 21

You disagree with the "fetus/person" thing?

Answer 22

Hijab is something great and civilized, but niqab and burqa make a bad image for Islam and the main virus of Islamophobia!

Answer 23

One is voluntary, the other enforced. I feel sorry for women born into that.. at least nuns get to choose. It's like Orthodox Jewish women... now that is very similar to Muslim women in their burqas.

Orthodox Judaism requires women to dress in clothing that covers all body parts except for the face and hands. There are some differences in modern Orthodox and ultra-Orthodox Jewish women.

But neither modern-day Orthodox Jewish women nor ultra-Orthodox women believe in exposing their body parts besides their face and hands, she said. Modern orthodox Jewish women sometimes might expose the bottom part of their legs.

Now I wonder where the nuns got their habits from?

Answer 24

What did he say???

Answer 25

In the picture, the Muslim is wearing a CHADOR with a NIQAB, not a burqa. Also, orders of Nuns were around centuries BEFORE Islam so they would be the PRECEDENT. The tradition of PURDAH which dates to Persia in Greco-Roman times is, again, centuries prior to Christ. ALL faiths have adopted pagan traditions and repackaged it as their own.

Answer 26

Only if a male forces her to wear it. Many women freely choose to wear burqas and the women who choose to wear burqa are not victims of male thinking.

Answer 27

I seen woman in Burqa's ,no way is it like a nuns habit.Woman in Burqua's scare the **** out of me.I don't think a nun cares about her ****** identity.Besides I can tell she's a
female.The Burqua you don know what the **** is under there.

Answer 28

Their young men must go crazy imagining what's under there.

Answer 29

Standard Olde Boy's Club fare, the women are forced into isolation but the lads are still allowed to objectify them with impunity.

Answer 30

My sentiments exactly ... one never knows if it is actually a male or a female. I think Burqua's should be banned in other countries!

Answer 31

It's all just silly

Answer 32

The scientific inaccuracies of more recent vintage spread by pro choice advocates are far more troubling. How did they ever pass *** ed with such appalling ignorance about ****** reproduction? I usually *** up giving them a refresher course on the basics.

Answer 33

and ?

Answer 34

Not only Catholic nuns, but a lot of women Catholic parishioners as well, especially during Catholic ceremony and Holy days.

Answer 35

I see your point, but one has a choice and I haven't heard of any nuns being stoned to death recently.

Answer 36

Excommunicated, perhaps. The pressure is there, and the effect is the same.

Answer 37

I have no adverse feelings towards the Catholic Church but my family bailed from them over their stinking rules a generation ago.

Answer 38

Life is too short for that kind of crap.

Answer 39

On the other hand many live very well by their rules in comparison to much of the other crap out there.

Answer 40

Just to be clear, I'm not talking about YOU or even Catholocism in any way, here-- just ranting about religion in general. :O)

All this stuff is so arbitrary: food is scarce enough that we have no business proscribing any of it. Making the human body a thing of shame is another huge one... plus, all the historical and scientific inaccuracies. People make themselves miserable over random nonsense somebody thought up centuries ago. Could have been a prank, for all we know.

Answer 41

He said, intentionally missing the point.