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I've seen kids working at McD's who didn't really want to prepare food for anyone - and the customer got what they sent out. It had nothing to do with gender, just immature hostility. Any time you buy fast food you're playing Russian roulette.

And, we have MORE than enough protections for religious beliefs. It was more than enough before they changed the Pledge and our currency. That set up the slippery slope we're sliding on towards the US becoming a Christian theocracy.

And that hum you hear are the FF's spinning in their graves...
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Ah but that brings in more problems, he did tell people to turn the other cheek and pay your taxes. This was to Caesar at the time who was also a pagan *** and an abomination to his former self and would have killed communities for the same.
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LOL!
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That's how it always happens. First somebody builds a government--it can be the best designed and most fair government on earth--and then somebody buys it and uses it as a tool to beat up on his/her competitors. The formula is as old as human nature and completely inescapable.

The answer? Well, short of the Almighty reasserting HIS right of rule, there really isn't one. The best we can hope to achieve is to limit the size, scope and power of government for as long a period of time as we can.. The current record is about 217 years.
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Agreed but the "use" of the Federal/State Government has been for sale, to the highest bidder for some time now and most times, NOT in the best interest of the people who make up said Government... Ironic.
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*** or straight, if a man or woman uses the proxy of government to force me to bake him/her a cake, I GUARANTEE you they're not gonna like that creamy filling.
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Exactly! Why demand a business to cater to you if they simply dislike you? That is just asking for it. Avoid them and if it really matters to you, boycott and destroy their reputation. That's the American way!
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Fantastic question!

1) No, if I were *** I wouldn't want to force anyone to do business with me. In fact I'd take a considerable amount of pride in telling them to go to ****. Muslim ****.

2) No, we do not. The Constitution is fully sufficient to protect human and civil liberties AS IT IS. When people 'interpret' it to mean whatever the **** they want it to mean, they seek to undermine and destroy it--pretty much as *** and civil rights 'activists' have done for the last fifty years give or take. The Constitution contains the inbuilt means to CHANGE it to meet contemporary demands and ideals. It needn't be circumvented to achieve those demands/ideals.

Please note, however, that modern-day 'activists' don't give a **** about the Constitution or about a government limited by same. They seek domination. Much like Islamic and Christian fundies, they seek complete submission to their sick idea of 'justice.' And until the American people collectively tell them to go screw themselves, it WILL get worse.
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No. I prefer to do business with decent people that do not judge me simply because I am ***. And, no, we do not need all these silly little pieces of legislation providing people would honor the Constitutional provisions of freedom for all, equality for all, the pursuit of liberty and justice for all. However, bigots chose not to respect those stipulations. So, then it becomes imperative to enact these silly little laws to protect those persecuted by others. Total absurdity.
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if i were ***.. i wouldn't. No. leave the judgmentalness at home.
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No I would not. And I feel like people on both sides are being very petty and vindictive. This bakery won't bake a cake for our *** wedding? Their loss, I would say, and move on to another baker who actually deserves my business.
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The *** of the Old Testament and Christ's understanding were not the same. His revolution was caused by a revulsion for the old ways, I've little doubt, and I am thankful for His revolution. Humanity took a huge step forward, albeit in fits and starts ... as is the nature of progress.
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As Yahweh.
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"... and an abomination to his former self and would have killed communities for the same." ???
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I think Christ would have said to prioritize what is ***'s over what is Caesar's, but I don't have a quote to offer.
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No way. I wouldn't trust the food.
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Stop; you're making way too much sense.

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I think the law says it all, treat everyone as equals or face charges of discrimination.

The law might preach against **** as an abomination but also against unwed mothers, and disobedient ********, requiring them to stone them. Our laws don't allow that either.

Jesus also told people to obey the laws of the land, so they have an outclause right there.
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I have never been in favor of giving my business to anyone who doesn't appreciate it. There are stores in my neighborhood that will cater to their own kind before anyone else, even if you were there first. I can't seen any good reason to reward being disrespected.
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I think our religious liberties are safe ad infinitum, but I certainly get your points. THX for the detailed comments.
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I've seen kids working at McD's who didn't really want to prepare food for anyone - and the customer got what they sent out. It had nothing to do with gender, just immature hostility. Any time you buy fast food you're playing Russian roulette.

And, we have MORE than enough protections for religious beliefs. It was more than enough before they changed the Pledge and our currency. That set up the slippery slope we're sliding on towards the US becoming a Christian theocracy.

And that hum you hear are the FF's spinning in their graves...
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I understand. When you hear one of the staff ******* his nose, you really want to see where he is.
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I'm scared of the kids at McDonald's.
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Nope.
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In most cases, business isn't about being honest. lol. I would prefer they be honest too but I understand that people have bigotry in them. I have bigotries myself but I work around them because I don't like that I have them and I don't want to make anyone feel uncomfortable because of my particular upbringing.
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i'd prefer they just be honest about their beliefs, but i get your point.
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THANK YOU!
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honestly, if you are a cake maker and you don't want to make a cake for someone because of whatever reason you have... keep it to yourself and then tell them you are book with orders at the same time and wouldn't be able to do it. done. You didn't have to offend anyone and you were able to hold to your beliefs.
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This is about making me agree with them at the "point-of-a-gun".
My response to that: PULL THE TRIGGER AND MAKE MY DAY!!
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Especially not knowing how spiteful and petty ideologues can be... Yick.
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